Saturday, March 24, 2012

Please help a wannabe programmer...

I could really use some advice on where to start.

First off, i've been doing web development for quite some time, basically everything is WYSIWYG. Mainly using Dreamweaver and HTML coding. I have very little knowlege in programming. I took VB in highschool, but have lost all of it since i've been out of school for 8+ years.

One of my goals is to be able to create a SQL database with a web interface that can querry, add, modify and display the data in IE. I am finding it difficult to figure out where to start. I'm confused about the difference between ASP and ASP.NET, can someone please clarify? For a very beginner with no usable programming background, where should I START? VB? C++, ASP? Since my major goal is to fuse databases with web interfaces, should ASP be where I begin?

I know everyone has their personal opinions on where to start, so feel free to school me.

Thanks,
Mike> i've been doing web development for quite some time

no, you've been doing web layout. not development. you could call it web design if you like, but it AIN'T development if you're just slapping together HTML in a WYSIWYG editor. sorry. I started out that way and never claimed to be a developer until I really started doing server-side AND client-side code. up till then I was a "web designer". then I became a junior web programmer (a company euphemism for HTML coder), THEN a web developer. That was, oh, five years ago. Now I call myself a web developer for real.

ASP is a good way to start. it's simpler than ASP.NET to learn, since ASP.NET is, really, an enterprise-ready framework. ASP is far simpler. try www.asp101.com and www.4guysfromrolla.com. also my site and www.webmonkey.com

some zealots on this site will tell you ASP is dead, but they're just zealots. In another world they'd be handing out religious leaflets on a street corner. ASP is still a very viable framework and is a lot easier to get started with than ASP.NET. FACT.

once you have a basic idea of ASP, then ASP.NET will be conceptually easier to grasp. I won't deny that ASP.NET is a more desirable skill commercially, but hey, pragmatism wins here, and ASP.NET is a far richer, more strict and trickier framework.
Hello Mike,

I'm probably the last person that should be responding to this since I'm a wannabe programmer as well but...

For starters I would use the Tutorials listed at the top of this page (one of the tabs). This helped me TREMENDOUSLY. At home I use the Web Matrix with MS Access DB and at work I use VS.NET 2003 with SQL Server 2000. The tutorial section as well as this messageboard have helped me out with all those applications. Usually I don't even need to post any questions in the messageboards, I just do a search because I'm 100% sure the question I have has already been asked by somebody else and there's usually an answer already there.

I also bought a book (ASP.NET for Begginers using VB.NET (I think that's what it's called, I'm at work right now and can't check)) and it was pretty good at teaching me the 'way' ASP works and how the asp controls work, great book to get started.

And after all that, if you still have questions then this messageboard is the place I've found to get answers. If another ASP.NET user can't help you then I think I've seen posts from ASP "gurus" or MS people (I think?) and they usually have the answer as well.

I hope I have been somewhat helpful.

EYZAE

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